Subject	Christ people, go eat turkey. Better is SUBJECTIVE
Posted by	SeedyROM on November 25, 2004 at 2:09 PM
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In Reply To	Conservative doesn't = better though (n/m) posted by DougZXTT on November 25, 2004 at 02:01 PM
Message	Better to me is making a ton of power while being safe about it. Better to me is a conservative tune that THOUSANDS of people have tested and run with no problems at all while still making great power. Better to me is not gaining 2% more peak power at the risk of a more aggressive tune, tweaking the timing, etc. Again, that's to ME. That's because better is subjective. My 300Zs: www.zheaven.com - Have a question about either of my 300ZXs? Answers lie within. Admin: www.350ZForum.com - Your source for the lastest info on the new Nissan 350Z! Member: www.SoCalZCrew.com - Come find out how we do it in the West
Follow Ups	ecu, intake, exhaust - 300zer 12:49:37 11/25/04 JWT for everything you mentioned (n/m) - 300MPH 12:52:28 11/25/04 Big 2nd, get them from Coz, ~1400 (n/m) - Scotts94z32 16:38:24 11/25/04 3rd (n/m) - Snoguitar 18:37:28 11/25/04 quiet exhaust=hyper (n/m) - GiZmo 12:54:10 11/25/04 they cangetpretty loud bt it sounds good, i live in ca also (n/m) - deesz 13:09:10 11/25/04 ash ecu - 91Z32TT 12:59:06 11/25/04 Does "best" = quality and safety or peak performance to you? - SeedyROM 13:00:59 11/25/04 best to me is... - 300zer 13:04:09 11/25/04 If its your daily driver why do you want to upgrade it? - ZXRider 13:15:48 11/25/04 i dont want to upgrade it alot just want a little more power (n/m) - 300zer 13:20:41 11/25/04 I disagree... - DougZXTT 13:52:26 11/25/04 2nd. (n/m) - inf 16:31:36 11/25/04 Please fill out your profile when you can - SeedyROM 13:29:51 11/25/04 All hail to SeedyROM...your a informing fella. - ZXRider 13:32:56 11/25/04 Seedyrom is correct, but - 91Z32TT 13:44:12 11/25/04 I 2nd that... Ash is just as good a DD chip as JWT (n/m) - DougZXTT 13:54:00 11/25/04 Re: Seedyrom is correct, but - Guapo 13:58:20 11/25/04 Conservative doesn't = better though (n/m) - DougZXTT 14:01:26 11/25/04 Christ people, go eat turkey. Better is SUBJECTIVE - SeedyROM 14:09:23 11/25/04 I think we laid down the info for the guy... - DougZXTT 14:12:06 11/25/04 Hahahahaha - 91Z32TT 14:18:20 11/25/04 And even more facts. (n/m) - SeedyROM 14:26:39 11/25/04 i like having a secondary map vs. a single conservative one (n/m) - xZeler8 17:23:02 11/25/04 No one said it would damage the car - SeedyROM 14:25:06 11/25/04 Not to keep the argument going, but - 91Z32TT 14:32:26 11/25/04 Oh dear lord - SeedyROM 14:38:20 11/25/04 do you prefer the grape or the cherry kool-aid? (n/m) - Guapo 15:05:31 11/25/04 Cherry... - DougZXTT 15:42:19 11/25/04 with just a hint of almond (n/m) - Got Z? 15:55:37 11/25/04 lol (n/m) - KILLR300ZX 15:09:38 11/25/04 lol (n/m) - aliaZ 15:16:53 11/25/04 I want to clarify 1 point which you have misleading info on> - Ash's Z 15:34:41 11/25/04 You're not with z1 anymore, are you? (n/m) - 91Z32TT 15:56:21 11/25/04 No, I'm not. I got tired of all the unprofessional things - Ash's Z 16:15:18 11/25/04 I noticed... - DougZXTT 17:18:24 11/25/04 Umm... what's this? - Snoguitar 17:22:27 11/25/04 Dur, how did I miss that? Rephrase question: - DougZXTT 17:35:38 11/25/04 lol... - Snoguitar 18:00:16 11/25/04 BIG 2nd, haha (n/m) - DougZXTT 18:11:37 11/25/04 I left none of my Ash-SPEC products with them. - Ash's Z 18:23:10 11/25/04 Lol, should get interesting in the times to come. ;-) (n/m) - Snoguitar 18:30:14 11/25/04 Let the lawsuits begin! lol (n/m) - 91Z32TT 19:01:08 11/25/04 Wow, you are absolutely clueless. (n/m) - Snoguitar 16:40:58 11/25/04 Sigh... (n/m) - 91Z32TT 16:45:38 11/25/04 2nd. You know nothing about the real history of Z1 or Ash. - Snoguitar 17:05:10 11/25/04 And this has what to do with the question? - DougZXTT 17:13:17 11/25/04 Did you miss this post of his? - Snoguitar 17:20:58 11/25/04 I know how the site works... - DougZXTT 17:38:44 11/25/04 2nd, and snoguitar... - 91Z32TT 17:52:41 11/25/04 Opinion is good, but not when it's based on misinformation. (n/m) - Snoguitar 17:57:24 11/25/04 Do some research, you'd learn the Ash is better... - DougZXTT 18:07:08 11/25/04 Point has nothing to do with Ash-Spec vs. JWT... - Snoguitar 18:32:47 11/25/04 you obviously need to do more research on the subject. (n/m) - Spee 22:26:03 11/25/04 Did... - DougZXTT 23:06:07 11/25/04 k...here you go. - Spee 17:06:08 11/26/04 And here you go... - DougZXTT 18:58:33 11/26/04 I did...keep reading - Spee 23:15:35 11/26/04 As was said, do some MORE research... - Renner 16:16:06 11/26/04 All I said was Ash spent tons of time tuning his ecu - 91Z32TT 18:07:38 11/25/04 No, you said that Z1 "hired Ash to make their ECUs"... - Snoguitar 18:29:04 11/25/04 which BIGGEST Z COMPANIES IN THE US are you referring to? - T0M 16:58:00 11/25/04 If you read my post thoroughly, you wouldn't be asking - 91Z32TT 17:03:58 11/25/04 Maybe in GA. They do seem to have to most Z parts cars... - Snoguitar 17:14:48 11/25/04 wrong (n/m) - DougZXTT 17:44:27 11/25/04 Right. (n/m) - hey GotBo0st 18:40:46 11/25/04 Glad you agree (n/m) - DougZXTT 23:08:51 11/25/04 not with you, was making a counterpoint. - hey GotBo0st 10:37:40 11/26/04 LOL you are ADORABLE!!! - T0M 19:02:19 11/25/04 Ah ah ah, don't twist my words - 91Z32TT 19:32:57 11/25/04 SGP, Ultimate Z, Stillen, JWT, SpecialyZ, StrictlyZ... (n/m) - Snoguitar 19:40:11 11/25/04 Exactly, they are all huge, that's why I said "One of the" (n/m) - 91Z32TT 19:47:30 11/25/04 Are we down to semantics now? - T0M 20:43:22 11/25/04 Re: Are we down to semantics now? - 91Z32TT 21:06:13 11/25/04 lol.... just ADORABLE! (n/m) - T0M 21:14:03 11/25/04 lol...just RIDICULOUS! (n/m) - 91Z32TT 21:38:13 11/25/04 you are correct. (n/m) - T0M 21:43:46 11/25/04 Please stop. - Marshall 08:29:06 11/26/04 Correction, he said "One of the" (n/m) - DougZXTT 17:14:01 11/25/04 Scott joined the forum April 14, 2004 14:46 PM - Spongerider :) 17:24:29 11/25/04 I searched the topic before buying my ashspec ecu, thank you (n/m) - 91Z32TT 19:03:07 11/25/04 BAHAHHA you are too much, this has to be a plant, no one is - Halo Z 19:05:49 11/25/04 Interesting! But the biggest z company is Nissan! - kryptonite729 21:39:47 11/25/04 He was talking about Z1... - DougZXTT 23:11:17 11/25/04 LOL (n/m) - Spee 22:20:06 11/25/04 From the research ive done... - DougZXTT 14:40:21 11/25/04 You prove my points with your post :) - SeedyROM 14:49:28 11/25/04 Explain? (n/m) - DougZXTT 14:50:40 11/25/04 In the end this is all futile - SeedyROM 15:18:40 11/25/04 Correction... - DougZXTT 15:38:55 11/25/04 I didn't say post, I said point. - SeedyROM 15:43:05 11/25/04 A point of which we were debating... - DougZXTT 15:50:09 11/25/04 It was an OPINION based question... - DougZXTT 15:43:53 11/25/04 Even if it did though..Ash's ECU is not "dangerous" - College Boy 16:10:27 11/25/04 2nd (n/m) - DougZXTT 17:06:34 11/25/04 NO ONE SAID IT WAS - I had a lot of faith in you Mike - SeedyROM 20:10:10 11/25/04 Come on now man..it's just my opinion - College Boy 18:27:16 11/26/04 Dear Lord...Ash's ECU is fine... - College Boy 16:08:21 11/25/04 well put (n/m) - mxsprocket1 16:57:55 11/25/04 yup (n/m) - DougZXTT 17:07:31 11/25/04 well done... - Spee 22:34:21 11/25/04 Emphasize your point... - DougZXTT 23:17:47 11/25/04 California... he mentioned it in his post. (n/m) - DougZXTT 14:31:27 11/25/04 Thanks - SeedyROM 14:33:52 11/25/04 so seedyrom... - 300zer 17:27:45 11/25/04 his Z is his DD, and he did pick JWT - Guapo 17:52:02 11/25/04 30,000 pedal to the floor miles every year =) - SeedyROM 20:07:39 11/25/04 Re: Please fill out your profile when you can - Ferraro 14:36:27 11/25/04 you have a large boost leak - joel(PA) 14:37:30 11/25/04 Re: you have a large boost leak - Ferraro 14:44:44 11/25/04 2nd... - DougZXTT 14:47:42 11/25/04 He needs to speak to JIM when having a problem - SeedyROM 14:50:26 11/25/04 Agreed (n/m) - DougZXTT 14:51:07 11/25/04 My experience. - nik_z 17:54:16 11/25/04 Re: My experience. - Ferraro 19:26:17 11/25/04 i hate to tell you, but JWT chips are not tuned for 10:1 - joel(PA) 14:51:21 11/25/04 Re: i hate to tell you, but JWT chips are not tuned for 10:1 - Ferraro 14:56:29 11/25/04 With ANY company there is room for error (n/m) - DougZXTT 15:45:10 11/25/04 You have another problem it seems (n/m) - SeedyROM 14:42:26 11/25/04 Re: You have another problem it seems - Ferraro 14:49:07 11/25/04 stoichiometric efficiency is 14:1... not sure - DougZXTT 14:46:18 11/25/04 Correction 14.7:1, missed a digit but you get the idea (n/m) - DougZXTT 14:49:46 11/25/04 Re: Correction 14.7:1, missed a digit but you get the idea - Ferraro 14:50:52 11/25/04 LOL (n/m) - DougZXTT 14:51:56 11/25/04 Well Ash is quality, and performance imo - 91Z32TT 13:09:42 11/25/04 Thanks for your *multiple* unbiased reviews (n/m) - SeedyROM 13:22:42 11/25/04 You're welcome, lol, he asked a q I gave an answer (n/m) - 91Z32TT 13:25:30 11/25/04 Right, but you posted in the wrong part of the thread - SeedyROM 13:30:49 11/25/04 I'm not sure - 91Z32TT 13:34:53 11/25/04 Yeah, didn't show up below mine - SeedyROM 13:35:43 11/25/04 Ash ECU, JWT Pop, Labree/Greddy/B&B Exhaust (n/m) - DougZXTT 13:49:38 11/25/04 Ash ECU, JWT Pop, Labree Exhaust - UnrulyZX 14:52:50 11/25/04 would a catback exhaust pass california inspection? (n/m) - 300zer 20:36:05 11/25/04 Yes, provided you still have the cats (n/m) - 91Z32TT 21:11:17 11/25/04 Check out the Stage 3 packages at www.300zx.com (n/m) - College Boy 16:09:09 11/25/04 I originally bought the JWT "396 upgrade", - RHulme 17:29:27 11/25/04 Call Coz and ask him, but IMO... - NATHAN91'TT 17:53:19 11/25/04 The greater % of tt.net guys think? says who? - XpenZive TT 18:24:24 11/25/04 repost (n/m) - Moxie 18:20:55 11/25/04 ECU, Nissan ECM, modified with EPROM socket and custom maps - Fast300 01:32:34 11/26/04 Uhh, that's what the aftermarket ecu's are..modified nissans (n/m) - 91Z32TT 01:48:03 11/26/04 I may have misunderstood you > - 91Z32TT 01:52:53 11/26/04
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